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DEWALT R4221 vs Metabo HPT C10FSHCT

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Title DEWALT DWS709 Slide Compound Miter Saw, 12-Inch with DEWALT DW7296PT Precision Trim 12-Inch 96 Tooth ATB Crosscutting Saw Blade with 1-Inch ArborMetabo HPT 10-Inch Sliding Miter Saw | Zero Rear Clearance Slide System | Dual Bevel | Laser Marker (C10FSHCT)
Model DEWALT
R4221
Metabo HPT
C10FSHCT

Basic Info

Suggested Price $513.51$370.56
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Release Sep 2016

Overview

Top Features
  • Powerful 15 Amp, 3,800 rpm motor
  • Tall sliding fences, and exclusive back fence design
  • The product is 12" 96T cross blade
  • Easy to use
  • 10" Sliding Miter Saw with Dual Bevel and Laser
  • INCLUDES: C10FSHCT miter saw, 10" 40T TCT Saw Blade, Dust Bag, Vise Assembly, 13mm Box Wrench
  • POWER: 15 Amp motor to tackle tough cutting jobs
  • SLIDE: Simple & compact slide system allows the saw head to slide along fixed rails for zero rear clearance
  • MITER ANGLE: 0-60° miter angle to the right and 0-55°miter angle to the left for ultra-flexibility
  • BEVEL: 0-48 degree bevel angle range to the right & left allows user to quickly and easily flip the saw blade, and leave the material in place
  • LASER: Laser Marker System increases cutting accuracy
  • BASE: Extension supports added on both sides to increase stability to the work surface
  • MITER STOPS: Positive Stops & Indications on the Miter with indexing override for easy-to-read measurements and quick transitions between miter angles
  • Metabo HPT: Same tools. New name. Hitachi Power Tools has renamed to Metabo HPT

Reviews

Walmart Rating3.1 (out of 15 reviews)4.6 (out of 64 reviews)
Latest Reviews

I would swear by it
Rating: 5
Power tools: you either swear BY them or swear AT them. This is one I would swear by, despite those who swear at the blade wobble. More on that later. Having had mixed experience with Ridgid (I swear by my TS3650 table saw, but swore at my now discontinued 14 inch band saw) I was actually looking at a competitor's product when I saw the R4221 had greater specs at a lower sale price. I am very happy with it. Movements are smooth and fluid without drag or binding, making precise setting very easy. The head is well balanced so it doesn't flop to one side when setting bevels. The instruction manual is clear and well written (yes, I'm one of "those guys" who reads manuals) making assembly relatives quick and painless. The preset detents are crisp, solid, and tight, making the standard cuts easy to obtain. The miter detents were off by a fraction of a degree, but I was able to adjust it to true without much trouble. Coupled with the MSUV cart and a self made measuring cutoff table, and this a valuable addition to my shop. Now about that notorious blade wobble. I read the reviews after I made the purchase (I normally do a lot of research before buying) and I was alarmed by the number of people that had problems with wobble. It doesn't seem to matter if it is the R4221 or R4222 or the specific serial number, the problem seems to be random. I hope Ridgid can get the issue resolved, otherwise they've killed a terrific product. I make furniture and regularly need to cut 5/4 by 12+ inch by 8-12 foot red oak boards sometimes with a 83 degree bevel. This has been time consuming and sometimes dangerous with hand held saws or the table saw. It is a lot quicker and easier with the miter saw. Even setting the bevel is easy with the help of a digital angle finder. So far cuts have been very smooth and clean, with nominal tear out, even after I seriously dulled the included blade cutting some U channel that I only thought was aluminum. I'm sure that I after I get a new vibration free blade the cuts will be almost polished. A couple of minor issues. The blade brake pulls the saw downward when it is engaged. Not a problem when making through cuts. However, when making stopped cuts in vertically held boards, it will cause tremendous over cutting. The solutions is to carefully lift the saw out of the cut before releasing the trigger (which Ridgid strongly discourages) or to use the depth stop. I haven't used the depth stop yet, but it looks like it would take three hands to set it correctly. Also, when the brake first engages, the entire head torques slightly clockwise. When cutting boards wider than 6 inches, this results in a barely perceptible groove in the left hand piece from the side of the teeth cutting into the board. (see second and third photo) The groove can definitely be felt, but is virtually invisible when boards are joined. The LED sighting takes a little getting use to, but it is precisely accurate. I would definite recommend this saw with the caveat that you should be prepared to switch to another one if you get a bad one. Ridgid, do us woodworkers and yourself a favor and get that blade wobble under control.
by Wild Hare on 2020-08-10T17:00:00

Fantastic Miter Saw with Class Leading Capabilities
Rating: 5
First of all I recognize I was fortunate that my saw does not exhibit any of the "blade wobble" others speak of. I have a higher serial number unit that has had very little issues compared to the earlier lower serial number model. Mine worked flawlessly after assembly and I couldn't be happier! RIDGID really built a fantastic unit in this Model R4221 12 inch Miter Saw. They designed a compound sliding miter saw that cuts 70 degrees in both directions, has the best type of kerf shadow LED marking system, blade brake, great ergonomics in a solid platform. If your looking for small and portable this is not your saw, but if you can handle the size and weight it will likely be the last miter saw you will ever buy. I have yet to use all the features but all my cuts thus far have been spot on. I did purchase the crown molding jigs and a second clamp so I won't have to keep moving the one that is provided from side to side. I am completely satisfied with this purchase, and will recommend this to my friends and family. By the way I am a DIYer, not using it professionally, although I think it would be a stellar performer for most professionals.
by OldDominionDIYer on 2018-01-21T16:00:00

Outstanding
Rating: 5
I have been waiting years for the next generation of this saw to come out. Worth the wait great saw from the new light guide, to the crown stops not to mention the 70 degree bevel very impressed nice work ridgid
by Justbuildit on 2016-08-06T17:00:00

Greatest addition to my arsenal!
Rating: 5
First off, I read all of the reviews on this site and other sites to determine if I was making the right decision purchasing this saw. I saw everything that everyone had to say about the "Blade Wobble" and whatnot. So, I knew what to look for as far as the serial numbers when I went into my local Home Depot. The particular saw that I got started with a "1804", so I wasn't too concerned. I got it home, unboxed it and begin to verify if it were square and whatnot. It was pretty dead on! Pairs perfectly with my Ridgid Table Saw.
by Lunchboxmunchy on 2018-07-08T17:00:00

Great saw and it cuts like a boss!
Rating: 4
I did not have the wobble issue so many people have mentioned. Perhaps Ridgid fixed the issue or it was just a bad batch. It is also possible that people missed the step about adding oil to the outer blade washer. FYI there are two blade washers (inner and outer), the manual clearly states to remove the outer blade washer and place a drop of oil on it. After oiling the outer blade washer, you replace the outer washer and re-assemble the saw (more details in the manual). I bought this saw for home use and love it! This saw is likely overkill for the projects I have but I bought the saw hoping to have it for a lifetime. I would recommend this saw to anyone looking for a superior quality saw loaded with excellent features. The other huge bonus is that the saw comes with a limited life time service warranty. The LED cut line is not a "laser guide" LED thus it can be hard or near impossible to see the cut line when cutting outdoors in the sun. Overall, I give the Ridgid R4221 4 out of 5 stars because I haven't it long enough to say it's a long lasting, reliable product. When I bought my Ridgid R4221 there was a Father's Day promotion so I also received a free Ridgid MSUV (AC9946) Mitre Saw Stand. The saw and stand are usually sold separately.
by bskoreyko on 2017-09-08T17:00:00

Blade wobble still an issue
Rating: 3
I knew what I was getting in to with a known performance issue concerning the blade wobble, however, this saw really had everything I need. After seeing multiple posts that the blade wobble was fixed after certain a serial number sequence, I felt somewhat comfortable in buying it. Well, my SN is 1852 and I can assure you the blade wobble is still there. Darn thing cuts anything I throw up there with ease. Most of what I do is rough work, so precision isn't a priority for me. However, the wobble is very noticeable and does impact the squareness of cuts. Will be sending it in for a warranty claim. We'll see how many I have to cycle through before they make it right.
by Joe Burrow on 2020-06-02T17:00:00

Not a square cut among them
Rating: 2
I bought this saw because all of the other Ridgid power tools I purchased have been awesome. After I setup the saw I performed my first cut. For an unknown and reoccurring reason, the blade cuts straight about two-thirds of the way across a piece off wood, then it appears the blade shifts and the cut takes a small angle change. The result is a cut that isn't square. Doesn't matter what type of wood, how thick, sliding or down motion, etc. I kept around an old Delta mitre saw and have used my father's DeWalt sliding mitre and never had this issue. I'm severely disappointed, especially after having read that Ridgid had resolved the issue.
by Unsatisfied Customer on 2020-09-19T17:00:00

Wobble - not what I expected from this brand
Rating: 2
I bought this saw based on price and brand quality compared to others out there. When I set up the saw and put the blade on, the saw had significant more wobble than I expected. I took the blade off and reviewed the set up per the instructions and still had the same issue. I did buy a red blade, but did not switch it out yet. Any suggestion on anything I can do to adjust it or am I stuck with a wobble on the saw?
by CarlosWoodWorks on 2017-02-18T16:00:00

Ridgid 12 in bevel sliding saw
Rating: 1
Had to return it cause the blade had a bad wobble after only a few times using the saw . Was going to exchange it for a new one but after reading a lot of reviews and seeing that this is a very common thing I decided to just return and buy a different brand .
by erasmod1 on 2020-10-22T17:00:00

Blade wabble
Rating: 1
Got this saw today was so excited to have another ridgit miter saw for my crew to work with, all the options on the saw were what convinced me to purchase the saw, got back home set it up and as soon as I ran it I noticed that the blade was wobbling way too much, I set my 90 degree square and gently turn the blade by hand to check the reason and I tell you what after marking the blade on zero turned it around and the blade was almost 1/8" away from my square. I have many ridgit tools that I am very happy with but this one is not!! going back to return it tomorrow
by Gcpitt on 2017-06-11T17:00:00

Contractor recommended
Rating: 5
I Love this machine. Very high quality and dependable.
by MarkH on 2020-01-21T16:00:00

Great Saw overall
Rating: 5
I was impressed with how smooth the saw operated and the quality of the hardware gives this saw a very solid feel. The dust collection, paired with an adequate dust collector is quite impressive.
by GAIL on 2020-07-21T17:00:00

Great Buy
Rating: 5
Great unit for me as a DIYer. Well built and quality parts [This review was collected as part of a promotion.]
by on 2020-09-05T17:00:00

Needs work, but a decent product worth a look.
Rating: 4
While it seems the overall quality and attention to detail has diminished quite a bit in this brand (formerly known as Hitachi), this saw does not disappoint in power and features. There are several accuracy issues as well as play in the stop locks for the bevel that definitely need to be addressed as well as some incredibly sloppy welds/joins in the saw that I wish they would have cared to cleaned up, however, as companies race to compete with each other and their own bottom line due to rampant greed and not giving any actual care about the end user/consumer, I sincerely doubt those issues will ever be addressed by any company, let alone Matabo HPT. So, for the price tag, it could and should be of a be MUCH better build with MUCH better accuracy and less play in the stop points with MUCH better attention to overall detail and design. That said, when compared to similarly priced items touting the same 'bells and whistles'', it's more than a decent choice, it's about the best choice out there. Only time and use will tell if this will hold up to the sands (saw dusts?) of time like my 1951 Craftsman 10" table saw has, but what can you expect nowadays as companies give more cares about their bottom line over creating a truly lasting, quality product. [This review was collected as part of a promotion.]
by on 2020-08-25T17:00:00

metabo 10" sliding compound miter saw
Rating: 4
so far so good only problem is adjusting laser . seems to be very accurate out of the box cuts very smooth and a like sanded finish. disappointed that it did not have a soft start motor that was noted in some reviews if it did i would give it 5 stars
by buff51p on 2020-06-07T17:00:00

Great saw
Rating: 4
1. The motor is strong. 2. The blade is sharp and has cut through the pine I've been using like butter. 3. The laser is bright and alignment is easily adjusted. 4. The slide is easy to maneuver and use. The operation is not as smooth as another saw I evaluated. 5. For the price an excellent value. I would buy again.
by Buster on 2020-05-26T17:00:00

Outstanding saw!
Rating: 4
This saw is very well designed and the build quality is excellent. It is a pro tool at a DIY price. True cuts, detents are great, angle locking systems are superb! Laser is accurate and easy to adjust. No complaints so far!
by Mark in FL on 2020-02-04T16:00:00

10 inch sliding miter saw
Rating: 4
Went with the 10 inch instead of the 12 because it fits better in my shop. True out of the box, just doesn't have the feel of my 15 year old Delta that it replaced. Getting the job done after I upgraded the blade.
by Dogiedad on 2020-04-05T17:00:00

Input/Thoughts on Purchase
Rating: 3
A few things related to the saw. The saw has nice features but I found that the sliding bars are rusting quite rapidly which only means that over time the glide bushings will wear and the saw will become very hard to adjust properly. Secondly the scale that is on the front of the saw is off on one side by at least 1.5 to 2 degrees (one used for angle cuts). The machined detents seem to be better at holding the angle. Third, the bevels are difficult to adjust accurately. I tried setting up +/- 45 degrees and it's difficult to get it within 1-2 degrees repeatably.
by Abcdzhirt on 2020-06-25T17:00:00

I really wanted to Love this saw, but .....
Rating: 2
I really wanted to love this saw. It was awesome until I realized the miter fence was not straight. I mean, this thing was bad! The left side fence did not align with the right side fence. The fence is a one piece casting and there's no way to fix it. Where's the Quality Control at Metabo - or whomever makes this product for them? They must have been asleep the day my saw was assembled. I'm a Product Manager for Fortune 500 manufacturing company and one thing I know is that Quality Control is paramount to having a successful product which leads to product sales growth. When I contacted Metabo Customer Service, they just told me to return the saw to the retailer. So, that's what I did and I did NOT purchase another Metabo saw. I paid the extra $100 and bought a 12" Dewalt.
by Jon H on 2020-06-01T17:00:00

All Features

Product Width (in.)22.38 in
Table Length (in.)17
Arbor Size1
Product Height (in.)20.50 in
Table Width (in.)26.25
PortabilityBench
Product-Weight (lb.)64lb
45 Degree Crosscut Capacity Maximum2X12 or 4X6
90 Degree Crosscut Capacity Maximum - Left2X16 or 4X6
Color FamilyOrange
Dust Collection Method1.5 in. Dust Port
Maximum Cutting Thickness (in.)4
Included AccessoriesBag
Power Tool FeaturesBag Included,Electric Brake,Positive Stops
Returnable90-Day
Amperage (amps)15
Maximum Speed (rpm)4000
Maximum Degree Miter Cuts - Right70
Cordless/ CordedCorded
Maximum Degree Miter Cuts - Left70
Cord Length (ft.)6
ConditionNew
Miter Saw TypeSliding Compound
Bevel TypeDual
90 Degree Crosscut Capacity Maximum - Right2X16 or 4X6
Bench & Stationary Tool TypeSlide Miter Saw
Manufacturer WarrantyLifetime Service Agreement
Construction MaterialAcrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene (ABS)
Product Depth (in.)38.75 in
Blade Diameter (in.)12
Tools Product TypePower Tool
releaseSep 2016
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